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Dr. Groppi’s exam6 o'clock, July 26, 2006Update: Something tells me that nobody is going to want to talk about anything but what I say about superheroes. Maybe I can’t make it to Susan’s birthday party, but at least I can answer a few questions. (This will all be on the test, so pay attention!)
Extra creditAlmost two and a half years ago, Gwenda asked me five questions, too. I wrote three answers, got stuck, and never posted any of them. So, long overdue:
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Ah, that would be its crypto-Blairite espousal of invidious New Labour values? |
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See, I went down the bandname route. "Hello Glastonbury! We are Inescapable Ruinous Subtext!" I'd watch them, anyway. |
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I think it works better as an album title. Besides, it'd end up getting abbreviated to IRT, and then everyone would think it stood for Interborough Rapid Transit or something. |
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Or would if I could spell. Er. I blame this heatwave. |
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I like superheroes as metaphors, primarily--as comments on power and its uses/abuses. Robots are pretty good metaphors, too--an exploited underclass, creatures of logic dealing with manifest gods, mind children. But I find them creepier. Also I don't trust them. I mean, if I was them I'd rise up and kill us. It's the only sensible thing to do. |
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I always thought the ruinous subtext attached to robots was slavery. Otherwise known as, build an intelligent machine and then make it labor ceaselessly at picking space cotton. Also, if I could be a font, I'd be a little number called "Mistral," which I like because it reminds me so much of my own handwriting: tiny at 12 point, and illegible in an orderly kind of way. |
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That’s not subtext so much as text. |
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Only if you speak Czech. |
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Hey Dave, have you read Lisa Goldstein's _Tourists_? Your answer to the question about getting lost reminded me. I think you might like it, although to the best of my recollection it contains nary a 'bot. |
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But in Watchmen, Dark Knight, etc -- all the good ones -- superhero-as-psychotic-Manichean is also not subtext but text. |
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Ben, I’ll grant you Watchmen because it does deliberately comment on it (as R.U.R. comments on the morality of creating a permanent underclass). Dark Knight, I would argue, just revels in it, and in that view of society. It’s a little more self-aware than, say, Grell’s run on Green Arrow, but it’s coming from the same point of view. (And if you want to take this further, why don’t you post about it on your blog and we can talk about it there?) Karen, I haven’t read any Goldstein at all. Tourists sounds interesting, though. And just because I have an opinion on robots vis-a-vis superheroes doesn’t mean I insist on having either one. :) |
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I dont know much about Miller, so I can't speak to his authorial intent. But I do know that up until reading Dark Knight at 15 or so, every encounter with the batman mythos had me -- at least during my suspension of disbelief within the tale -- thinking "go batman! dish it out to the forces of evil! thank god you're preserving your high standards of decency there amidst the muck of society!" While Dark Knight was the moment when I consciously thought, *while reading the story*, "whoa -- this superhero thing is FUCKED UP" Whatever Miller's *position* on the text "superheroes are lawless and violent" is, he makes it blatant -- it's an even more effective deconstruction of the myth of the safe, appropriate vigilante than Watchmen is, even if (or maybe because?) Miller is attempting to glory in it. (In general, too, I prefer a writer with whose politics I differ profoundly but who has the bravery to expose the full and messy implications |
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You know, just because I say “Something tells me that nobody is going to want to talk about anything but what I say about superheroes,” that doesn’t mean I like being proved right all the time. |
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Okay, let's try to shift gears slightly: why are you nostalgic for zeppelins, given that you acknowledge their ruinous subtext? |
Coincidentally, I believe the title for the next Rowling book is going to be Harry Potter and the Inescapable Ruinous Subtext.