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It’s the economy, stupid! We need to cannibalize the dead!3 o'clock, November 7, 2003More interesting stuff from John of John & Belle, in this case a review of David Frum’s Dead Right. I fully sympathize with John’s curiosity as to what conservatism looks like in all its glorious and unalloyed philosophical ideal purity, scoured clean and purified of blemishes, flaws, errors, compromises, distortions due to human weakness, money, K Street, the usual suspects. I also, however, fully sympathize with his dismay at the possibility that Frum’s thesis might be the best modern American conservatism has to offer. John paraphrases: ”It’s the economy, stupid! We need to bury it under ten to twelve feet of snow so that we will be forced to cannibalize the dead and generally be objects of moral edification to future generations.“ I think we are beginning to see why Frum feels that his philosophy may be a loser come election time. As John says, it’s not that Frum — and the great mass of American conservatives — really think this. It’s that they don’t think at all, at least when it comes to thinking through their premises to their logical conclusions. Have a look. (Courtesy of Electrolite.) |
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Yeah, this just doesn't read like an honest critique of another's ideas or positions. Belle says he came to Frum's book with an open mind, but when he says things like "It’s that they don’t think at all...", I have a damn hard time believing him. Has he ever read or listened to or met a thinking conservative? I doubt he'd answer that in the positive. |
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Whoops..."Belle" is John's, um, S.O. John Holbo is the guy's name. |
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Derek, I read it as an unapologetic liberal trying to make an honest attempt to see where the other side’s coming from, and finding that they weren’t coming from where they say they’re coming from, and where they were really coming from not a good place. Not unbiased by any stretch of the imagination, but not intellectually dishonest, either. Scott, I didn’t mean to imply that only conservatives don’t think their premises through to their conclusions. Actually I think just about everyone is guilty of that, or else the reverse — what John calls fabulating reasons for customary preferences. (That’s his follow-up post, if you’re interested.) I do it, too, but at least I’m honest about it. |
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Sorry if my tone didn't come across right, I intended that as a light hearted poke, and not something snarky. To be honest, I couldn't decipher most of what the hell Frum was saying in that excerpt. I'm not sure if it was just because it was from the end of the book, or we're not coming from the same mindset. |
"As John says, it’s not that Frum — and the great mass of American conservatives — really think this. It’s that they don’t think at all, at least when it comes to thinking through their premises to their logical conclusions."
Funny, I've heard conservatives say the same about liberals.